OKAY, how about a little help figuring out future price targets.
Two pharma companies I missed out on owning were ALXN, on my watch list years ago at $25, and JAZZ which a chat room I was in was being touted when around $30. I could not wrap my head around those drugs, nor come up with decent analysis for growth.
When I was really getting on board with TSLA, I again had a tough time figuring out a future price target. I asked for some help here, conversations got real perverted.
If I take a look at ALXN, it has 2B in sales and a 33.5B mkt cap. cap is about 16x sales.
JAZZ has 1B in sales and a 9.45B cap, about 9xsales.
NVAX working on RSV vaccines- published by many to be a 5B market each year.
5B multiplied by the above comps yields mkt cap of 45B-80B. Today it is roughly 1B, closed at $4.6.
So future price target based just on RSV sales could be $207-$368.
Price now should clearly be less based upon risk and time.
What is wrong with my analysis?
Wednesday, January 22, 2020
GOAL
If there is anyone that followed this blog and might happen to remember an original goal, today that goal was achieved.
Friday, July 29, 2016
NVAX Ownership, RSV phase 3
It had been trending down a bit, I think the old high was 83.1%, went just below 83%. THis am is shows 83.23%, a new high per nasdaq site. Just amazing. I dont put much weight in these small little changes. More data expected over the next two weeks, perhaps some bigger changes.
Price action seems slow. While I would prefer a buildup in price, it mostly seems to me as a gentle shaking of the tree. Emotions and expectations are high, I have some fear. Selling out would relieve this pressure, I've done that before. I am sleeping well. My spouse is sleeping well.
Phase 3 data for elderly RSV could come any time. I expect it could come before earnings so they get a chance to pound their chests a little. Then perhaps further partnership info though I have no feel for that.
http://imgur.com/gallery/SjNdRXI
Price action seems slow. While I would prefer a buildup in price, it mostly seems to me as a gentle shaking of the tree. Emotions and expectations are high, I have some fear. Selling out would relieve this pressure, I've done that before. I am sleeping well. My spouse is sleeping well.
Phase 3 data for elderly RSV could come any time. I expect it could come before earnings so they get a chance to pound their chests a little. Then perhaps further partnership info though I have no feel for that.
http://imgur.com/gallery/SjNdRXI
Thursday, July 21, 2016
Other comps Anacor ANAC
Based upon the data here: http://investor.anacor.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=971005
A product with a peak sales of 2B has the company sold for almost 6B, a 3x rule of thumb applied to previously accepted sales figures for RSV of 5B yields future sales price based on market cap of 15B of at least $50.
Current market cap is 2.06B, price is 7.43
Future market cap is 15B, 7.28 times current price..
7.43 x 7.28 = $54.
A product with a peak sales of 2B has the company sold for almost 6B, a 3x rule of thumb applied to previously accepted sales figures for RSV of 5B yields future sales price based on market cap of 15B of at least $50.
Current market cap is 2.06B, price is 7.43
Future market cap is 15B, 7.28 times current price..
7.43 x 7.28 = $54.
Monday, July 18, 2016
Thursday, June 30, 2016
Bill Gates mentions RSV
12 seconds into the video here:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-30/bill-gates-calls-u-s-drug-pricing-system-better-than-most
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-30/bill-gates-calls-u-s-drug-pricing-system-better-than-most
Tuesday, June 28, 2016
The price action in NVAX
yesterday, today, and the rest of the week will be the tale of the tape for end of quarter positions. Nobody can read the cards that the large professional investors hold yet, but what is happening now will be known in about 45 days when filings are done. Volume today is running high and the NVAX recovery is stronger than the market recovery. Draw your own conclusions, I know what mine are.
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Wednesday, June 22, 2016
NVAX in 1997
1996 here: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2016/06/novavax-in-1996.html
Feel free to skip, not much was done. I don't think much happened clinically
2.4 M shares registered for sale. 1.2 M to Anaconda, plus 1.2 M in warrants to same, privately placed.
11.8M shares total
18 employees, 11 are R&D
The JnJ lawsuit was settled without liability
1058 stockholders, just under 40% show up as reportable
Net loss 5.494M
The depth of data discussed in modern filings is so much more, likely due to changing regulation and complexity of the company.
Feel free to skip, not much was done. I don't think much happened clinically
2.4 M shares registered for sale. 1.2 M to Anaconda, plus 1.2 M in warrants to same, privately placed.
11.8M shares total
18 employees, 11 are R&D
The JnJ lawsuit was settled without liability
1058 stockholders, just under 40% show up as reportable
Net loss 5.494M
The depth of data discussed in modern filings is so much more, likely due to changing regulation and complexity of the company.
Tuesday, June 21, 2016
Novavax in 1996
Previous year here: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2016/06/the-corporate-history-of-novavax.html
In 1996 Novavax had two proposed share offerings, the first for 240K shares, the 2nd for 505K shares. Documents explain more of the formation of several companies becoming the new independent NVAX. There products and research had been focusing on several products:
1. Oral and topical delivery of liposomes (the IGI products of which were being used in cosmetics).
2. Micellar nanoparticles (MNPs)
3. Estrasorb
4. Non antibiotic Helicore for treatment of H Pylori
5. Vaccine adjuvants.
6. They received IND for 2 oral vaccine products.
Novavax suspended work on all to focus on Estrasorb and Helicore. Marsh initially became chairman of the board, later in the year and new Chairman and CEO were brought in.
Mention is made of a lawsuit by J and J versus NVAX and IGI over a Nova skin product.
They have 36 patents.
There is some discussion about possible government price controls of pharmaceuticals.
Of note, after two P I clinical trials of the Helicore, data was insufficient to continue testing.
In 1996 Novavax had two proposed share offerings, the first for 240K shares, the 2nd for 505K shares. Documents explain more of the formation of several companies becoming the new independent NVAX. There products and research had been focusing on several products:
1. Oral and topical delivery of liposomes (the IGI products of which were being used in cosmetics).
2. Micellar nanoparticles (MNPs)
3. Estrasorb
4. Non antibiotic Helicore for treatment of H Pylori
5. Vaccine adjuvants.
6. They received IND for 2 oral vaccine products.
Novavax suspended work on all to focus on Estrasorb and Helicore. Marsh initially became chairman of the board, later in the year and new Chairman and CEO were brought in.
Mention is made of a lawsuit by J and J versus NVAX and IGI over a Nova skin product.
They have 36 patents.
There is some discussion about possible government price controls of pharmaceuticals.
Of note, after two P I clinical trials of the Helicore, data was insufficient to continue testing.
1997 here:
http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2016/06/nvax-in-1997.html
The corporate history of Novavax
1995 The spin-off
I first got into Novavax back in the bird flu scare days. When I looked at the chart I could see they had been in existence for many years but I had little idea as to what that chart represented. I did little reading of official paperwork at the time but now enjoy reading current SEC filings on companies I follow. This is the first part of what I expect will be a long running corporate history of Novavax as gleaned from the corporate filings that I can find. When I have slow days I will slog thru another year and summarize the info here. As I complete another year I will go back and add links to the next year.
I do this with the following thoughts:
1. The history of this company has little impact on the current company.
2. I will focus on what has happened with the current leadership and board to see if they are worth keeping around.
3. Focus on products and sales.
4. I expect that too much attention to a lengthy history could influence me to sell out a useless company.
Novavax was incorporated in 1987. In December 1995 IGI Labs (now still a business under the name Teligent (TLGT)) spun off Novavax as a separate company. The new company was AMEX listed under symbol NOX. One of the board members of IGI was Dick Cheney. Perhaps the company was a collection of companies, Micro-Pak, Micro-Vesicular Systems, and Lipovax. Novavax was the human vaccine component of an animal vaccine company.
Continue here: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2016/06/novavax-in-1996.html
I first got into Novavax back in the bird flu scare days. When I looked at the chart I could see they had been in existence for many years but I had little idea as to what that chart represented. I did little reading of official paperwork at the time but now enjoy reading current SEC filings on companies I follow. This is the first part of what I expect will be a long running corporate history of Novavax as gleaned from the corporate filings that I can find. When I have slow days I will slog thru another year and summarize the info here. As I complete another year I will go back and add links to the next year.
I do this with the following thoughts:
1. The history of this company has little impact on the current company.
2. I will focus on what has happened with the current leadership and board to see if they are worth keeping around.
3. Focus on products and sales.
4. I expect that too much attention to a lengthy history could influence me to sell out a useless company.
Novavax was incorporated in 1987. In December 1995 IGI Labs (now still a business under the name Teligent (TLGT)) spun off Novavax as a separate company. The new company was AMEX listed under symbol NOX. One of the board members of IGI was Dick Cheney. Perhaps the company was a collection of companies, Micro-Pak, Micro-Vesicular Systems, and Lipovax. Novavax was the human vaccine component of an animal vaccine company.
Continue here: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2016/06/novavax-in-1996.html
Monday, June 20, 2016
What Do You Think The Giants Are Going To Do?
It is an interesting time to be a part owner of a company with pending phase three trial results. There is a lot that can happen, so many directions to go, ways in which the market can move. Overall market conditions might well dictate, especially in an election year. But after the big plunge last summer my GUESS is that the worst is over and what will move this stock is what professional money does from here. Up to now they have been overall buying albeit in the setting of rising short interest.
The bearish argument is that the risk is high. P3 results could be bad, best to get out and wait for published results. Perhaps even the big money guys will do the same. Perhaps push the stock to retail then shake them around to buy back if results are good. There is also the thought that despite good results we are still perhaps years away from an actual product with actual sales. No need to buy or hold if that is the case. Is big money bearish?
The neutral price argument holds up only if bullish and bearish forces remain equal.
Bullish argument centers on hopes for future product, the idea to invest now for future earnings. Big money continues buying up shares. Gates/Path add to what they have been helping with. Big pharma partners and helps build out new facility. If Big Pharma were to want to buy they would have to bring on market actions to get shares... Is big money bullish?
I think a lot of retail follows a lot of the drivel in the press. Conflicting opinion from "The Street" and "The Fools" makes it difficult to buy and/or hold. The IBD crowd can't even find this one (and I think you have to buy earlier than the IBD crowd-they are the ones that get distributed to). The value players find nothing tangible of value. I think smart money is buying. I do not know what Soros will do though.
The thing to do is to come up with an overall investment plan and stick to it. I like to invest in growth companies that I can understand, come up with future estimates for, and sleep well at night holding. Novavax fits this well for me. They have a leadership team that has grown pharmas before and sold them at a premium. They have good P2 results derisking a lot. They are bringing in key people and executing well on plans. They have things thought out with regard to how to move forward. They are talking to Big Pharma about partnering. They are working with Gates/Path.
I think the giants are buying and holding.
The bearish argument is that the risk is high. P3 results could be bad, best to get out and wait for published results. Perhaps even the big money guys will do the same. Perhaps push the stock to retail then shake them around to buy back if results are good. There is also the thought that despite good results we are still perhaps years away from an actual product with actual sales. No need to buy or hold if that is the case. Is big money bearish?
The neutral price argument holds up only if bullish and bearish forces remain equal.
Bullish argument centers on hopes for future product, the idea to invest now for future earnings. Big money continues buying up shares. Gates/Path add to what they have been helping with. Big pharma partners and helps build out new facility. If Big Pharma were to want to buy they would have to bring on market actions to get shares... Is big money bullish?
I think a lot of retail follows a lot of the drivel in the press. Conflicting opinion from "The Street" and "The Fools" makes it difficult to buy and/or hold. The IBD crowd can't even find this one (and I think you have to buy earlier than the IBD crowd-they are the ones that get distributed to). The value players find nothing tangible of value. I think smart money is buying. I do not know what Soros will do though.
The thing to do is to come up with an overall investment plan and stick to it. I like to invest in growth companies that I can understand, come up with future estimates for, and sleep well at night holding. Novavax fits this well for me. They have a leadership team that has grown pharmas before and sold them at a premium. They have good P2 results derisking a lot. They are bringing in key people and executing well on plans. They have things thought out with regard to how to move forward. They are talking to Big Pharma about partnering. They are working with Gates/Path.
I think the giants are buying and holding.
Saturday, June 18, 2016
Novavax History
So the photo in my last post comes from former location of Novavax (NVAX) on Lapp Road in Malvern PA. I've been reading back on old proxy and annual reports to catch more of the story with them. These old reports are like a history lesson as the company developed from what it was to what it is and hints at what it can be. They used to work on products for menopause and female sex drive! They had stuff that they developed and sold! Little remains of the company it once was, I salute whatever got them to focus on what they are focused on. (My hat is off to you grey heads still on the board!)
The RSV product development has progressed at a good pace in comparison to a great book I read on the subject.
It is a little bit exhilarating waiting for the next moves and news in Novavax.
Wikinvest has older stuff also, neat site.
2009 Annual report: shows preclinical stuff related to RSV: http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2009/F5387159
2009 Proxy materials http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEF_14A/2009/F5387152
2010 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2010/F47051008
2010 Proxy
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEF_14A/2010/F62457356
2011 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2011/F94896115
2011 Proxy First time I see quality money investing- Black Rock 5%
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEF_14A/2011/F95464843
2012 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2012/F100726546
2012 Proxy
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEF_14A/2012/F101402421
2013 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2013/F107428358
The proxy was gibberish on this site, could not be read.
14 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2014/F116065852
14 Proxy Two big investors show up, black rock and Fidelity
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEF_14A/2014/F116687464
15 Annual
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/10-K/2015/F122276170
15 Proxy Five are listed at >5% owner.
http://www.wikinvest.com/stock/Novavax_(NVAX)/Filing/DEFA14A/2015/F123436548
Monday, June 13, 2016
NVAX fair price now and in the future.
Trying to come up with another realistic back of napkin price for Novavax based just upon RSV vaccine market.
Pregnant mother: In the US there are about 4M live births/yr. At $100 per dose, the potential yearly market US is 400M. For sake of figuring, I’m gonna guess in the US that 75% get the vaccine so 300M sales each year. In the world there are 131M births per year. I’m gonna guess low that 25% get the vaccine and that it averages $25 each, so sales would be 818M, perhaps ½ goes to NVAX if they partner. So total guess for maternal immunization using conservative guesswork 709M per year in sales.
Elderly: 46.2M population in US @ $100 per vaccine is 4.62B per year in sales. World market adds over 600M more in population, figure 25% could take it (?) and price $25, sales would be 3.375B per year.
So potential sales could be 8.7B per year, at some point in the future, my guess is 5-10 years down the road.
Now, taking an old school run of the mill pharma like Pfizer, sales of 50.99 B, market cap of 214B, price to sales ratio is 4.2. Reverse engineer a market cap for novavax gives 8.7B x 4.2 =36.54B market cap, this would yield a price 20.4 times the recent price of 6.5, or about $132 per share. I really have no way of figuring a risk premium or time value of holding this for 5-10 years. What I did figure in the past was to subtract 20% of the value each year. If NVAX can execute the above sales figures in the next 5 years, I figure the present discounted value to be $43, if over the next 10 years, the discounted value would be $14.
Now let’s take a price to earnings approach comparing to Pfizers 28.93 p/e. I assume the sales would be highly profitable, perhaps 50% profit, 4.35B/yr. With roughly 280M shares of NVAX, this equates to EPS of $15.53. Multiply this by the p/e of PFE to get a price of $294. Discounted back over 5 years gets current price of $96, over 10 years gets current price of $31.
All bets are off if P3 sucks.
Thursday, June 9, 2016
Novavax 2016 Annual Shareholder meeting
No great words of wisdom to be spilled here, I think I will keep things brief. I have followed this company since losing money back in bird flu days- caveat emptor.
First meeting: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2013/06/novavax-shareholder-meeting.html
2nd meeting: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2014/06/for-reactions-from-last-years-meeting.html
One can also do a search top left of this blog using phrase "NVAX" to see my history...
Okay, here it goes.
Stan showed slide where RSV adult showed stage 3 complete...
The parking lot was full, they really do put people to work. 499 as of this am, 500th soon. They have hired "half of Medimmune". They have picked and chosen amongst the local area and are now looking outside the region for new hires. They look for those with a Can Do attitude.
The end of phase 2 meeting was November 3rd 2015, THEY WERE READY TO VACCINATE 4 days later, or something like that, just amazing claim.
Gates foundation recognizes that it takes 20 years for things to trickle down to poorer countries and are involved to speed that up. I think Erck mentioned they had just recently had their first face to face meeting with the foundation.
Product to be launched out of Firstfield road where Stage 3 trial was made.
Scaleability made easier by GE Xcellerex reactors: As they grow batch size, each larger reactor is just a larger scale version of the smaller ones, making things like oxygenation the same. I like this, am glad to know it.
They contract out Fill and Finish.
Stan was questioned about partner news timing and seemed to confirm next 3-6 months (I am paraphrasing).
They have a lot of options with how they build out from here. They seem to be considering all options, everything is being thought out in advance. A lot is determined by who the partner is.
There seemed to be 20+ people there, most were quiet. One guy seemed to be a scientist that was going to help them in some regard, had bought stock. Someone from NIH (maybe retired?) was there. High quality questions from most in attendance. Only one shareholder looked familiar.
Thanks for the tour Mr. Hahn!
First meeting: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2013/06/novavax-shareholder-meeting.html
2nd meeting: http://4nursebee.blogspot.com/2014/06/for-reactions-from-last-years-meeting.html
One can also do a search top left of this blog using phrase "NVAX" to see my history...
Okay, here it goes.
Stan showed slide where RSV adult showed stage 3 complete...
The parking lot was full, they really do put people to work. 499 as of this am, 500th soon. They have hired "half of Medimmune". They have picked and chosen amongst the local area and are now looking outside the region for new hires. They look for those with a Can Do attitude.
The end of phase 2 meeting was November 3rd 2015, THEY WERE READY TO VACCINATE 4 days later, or something like that, just amazing claim.
Gates foundation recognizes that it takes 20 years for things to trickle down to poorer countries and are involved to speed that up. I think Erck mentioned they had just recently had their first face to face meeting with the foundation.
Product to be launched out of Firstfield road where Stage 3 trial was made.
Scaleability made easier by GE Xcellerex reactors: As they grow batch size, each larger reactor is just a larger scale version of the smaller ones, making things like oxygenation the same. I like this, am glad to know it.
They contract out Fill and Finish.
Stan was questioned about partner news timing and seemed to confirm next 3-6 months (I am paraphrasing).
They have a lot of options with how they build out from here. They seem to be considering all options, everything is being thought out in advance. A lot is determined by who the partner is.
There seemed to be 20+ people there, most were quiet. One guy seemed to be a scientist that was going to help them in some regard, had bought stock. Someone from NIH (maybe retired?) was there. High quality questions from most in attendance. Only one shareholder looked familiar.
Thanks for the tour Mr. Hahn!
Wednesday, May 25, 2016
Monday, April 11, 2016
NVAX update
Account balance has been painful.
I've added as able.
Top line results expected next 3 months.
Ownership >77% now with large short position.
More ownership data coming out over the next month, I expect good data.
If they execute and news is good I will hold.
If news is bad the trade is off.
I've added as able.
Top line results expected next 3 months.
Ownership >77% now with large short position.
More ownership data coming out over the next month, I expect good data.
If they execute and news is good I will hold.
If news is bad the trade is off.
Friday, February 12, 2016
Last place
It would be nice if the tides changed. Ongoing results here: http://libra-investments.com/hf/bh.html
Thursday, February 4, 2016
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